Thank you for this article, much needed. After all the fires recently, I won't even get in one of those EV cars. A local grocery store (New Seasons) put in a few charging stations 6 months ago, (near the stores loading dock, which make it really hard for regular trucks to deliver food to the loading dock) but the charging stations are still surrounded by yellow tape. The power demands simply cannot be met, is my guess. In a similar vein, remember when they said computers would save paper? Nobody asked, at what cost? We are so very gullable as a species, generally.
So many people are so enamored with electric vehicles they are beyond considering whether there are externalized costs, or won't work at all. It is called cognitive dissonance. In Vermont we have charging stations but they are almost always unused for lack of vehicles. It is all unraveling -- maybe then we can actually do something productive (like consume less) rather than counterproductive (consuming in the delusion we are doing anything beneficial for the environment: solar panels, EVs, ethanol, etc.)
So as a resident of SoCA (San Diego) there are massive ‘charging stations’ at local strip malls and shopping centers, in San Diego County. They are always full (mostly Teslas). I recently took a road trip from SoCA up to The Bay Area. The amount of EV’s (Teslas primarily) on the road is astounding. And seriously, up in The Bay Area, practically every other car on the road is a Tesla.
But then again we are in Commiefornia, where people have more $$$ than brains...with a big economic divide between the ‘haves’ and the ‘have nots’. Shoot...people are still wearing masks out in public, in stores (like Whole Foods and health food stores), and wearing them while driving in their cars out here!
I might laugh except I too live in Loonieville. Vermont is far off the cliff of reason as well. It is amazing to me that in response to complaints of regressivity, the rich liberals respond "But we are helping the poor people by saving the climate." So much for progressivism. Now stealing from the poor is virtuous! Oh wait -- that's what equity is......
I have liberal cousins who are scattered about in CA and CO…a couple of them have plenty of money…their older brother invested in Apple ‘stock’ early on when he was doing graduate work at Stanford…sadly he passed away in 2019 of heart issues @ the ripe old age of 73. He left his massive ‘stock’ portfolio to his brother and sister. They are of the same ilk…”bleeding hearts for the poor by saving the climate”. There are things we just don’t talk about these days…better for familial relations. Let’s just put it this way…I’m not traveling in their same lane.
I think we are all struggling with similar divisions. But there are not two truths.... EVs are old pollution in New bottles: errant action instead of effective policy. But people are waking up to the graft and falsehoods.
A question (and some comments I suppose). I live in central NH and consider myself pretty darn conservative. Would never buy an EV nor do I subscribe to progressive thought. However, I do have rooftop solar panels. Purchased them and understand I’ll get a 30% credit on my taxes so in that sense I’m being subsidized. Otherwise, I’m paying out of pocket for them (I don’t rent or whatever they call it). The way I see net metering here is - If I produce more sun power than I use electricity (I do), then that gets put back “into the system” and is used. The power company credits me with a certain portion back, not the full KWh amount. This is a bad thing???
I’ve never been very quick off the mark financially and I’m not seeking to screw my neighbor but...other than the 30% credit and the eventual disposal issue, the manner that these panels were made, etc I don’t see rooftop solar as an evil.
Happy for any decent feedback. Thanks and happy Thanksgiving to all out there.
I'm very grateful that you ask. Good questions. I'm not sure how NH implements their practice, but in Vermont all rates have been raised to subsidize solar panels, meaning those who don't have them still pay for those who do (in addition to tax credits, another wealth transfer from poor to rich). Solar panels are not a "bad" thing, and definitely have effective applications -- I plan to buy some for my off-grid house. So if they work for you that's great. However, to argue they are saving the planet is a bridge too far and an illusion. That's where rooftops become a scam -- if the ideologues truly cared about the planet they would not implement panels that are a mere 50% (or less) in efficiency than field arrays. I still use my chainsaw too -- I just don't delude myself or others that it is "net-zero." We should still reduce energy use as a conservative conservation policy, not simply "burn baby burn" because we are deluded into thinking our consumption is "clean." I hope this is responsive to your polite and welcome inquiry.
Agreed on the net zero fantasy. Used to live in St Johnsbury BTW. Finally “escaped” but the leftism is following me 🙄🤣🤣. Thanks for your substack. Great information
These cars blow up break down and can be controlled by the government. I wonder if in the future they will be th only things on the road. VT just welcomed in electric buses for public transportation.
You nailed it with facts and logic. However it’s preaching to the choir. The reality is that democrats do not care about facts or logic. Facts to a democratic policy position are just as dangerous as krypton is to Superman something to be avoided at all costs. We need to win elections to have power. I do not see where there is any real opposition to the democrats. The Republicans we learn govern as democrats light. IE they never ever roll back or eliminate any of the horrible policies they fund raise on doing it but give them power and they do nothing. Keep up the good fight.
I am not in disagreement with your analysis. However, there is another side to this that I wonder if you have considered and that is the possibility of solar panels that are used to provide electricity for individual houses that are not connected to the grid. As batteries improve, this is becoming closer to a real alternative. This can be a route to removing the government monopoly via centralized power grids. The government being involved, pushing and subsidizing, is the real issue.
Checked into battery storage. One would need a huge storage building (garage size) and three times the outlay for expenses. As for the panels, they are only under warranty for 15 years; however, the rep assures you they'll last 25 years.
I agree it is not commercially viable at this time. I will try to find the information again - it was something my husband showed me that I don't have in my own search history. I can't see exactly what I said, but I should have conveyed the future potential. We are always looking for ways in which we (meaning the common people) can break free from the matrix so to speak.
Giving my comment another go. I think that "they" have intentionally sabotaged the narrative for solar and wind energy. And by they I mean those controlling events, we think it is G*eorge S0r0s but whoever they are globalists who think we are stupid cogs and the world needs less of us and we need to be controlled. So they pushed this green iniative at least a decade before it was economically viable with government subsidies plus draconian regulations on oil (to put it simply). Those of us with working brains saw this govt pushing of inefficient technology and we tended to put our blame on the technology. I know we did. I'm sure there is a more academic way to describe this phenomenom. However, my physics smart mechanic husband became fascinated by Elon Musk and all the things he is doing - SpaceX, Tesla, Boxabl, even the neuroimplant - and he believes that Musk is genuinely trying to help humanity in direct opposition to what globalists want. I think you will see him more and more vilified. You certainly do not see his accomplishments talked about that much in relation to the massive amount he is doing.
Anyhow, this led my husband, who drives a one ton Chevy Silverado for work to fix issues on oil drilling rigs so we are currently dependent on the oil industry, to look at the actual economics of oil vs electric vehicles. On just the pure energy costs, not looking at the whole business, the EVs are way more energy efficient. An internal combustion engine converts about 25% of the fuel into energy that drives the vehicle as opposed to 90+% for an EV.
So imagine for a moment that we had economically viable ways of using wind and solar to make energy. The huge wind turbines were ALWAYS a stupid, inefficient, centralized economic boondoggle designed to keep government in control of our energy supply. For a differing answer, you can check this out - I'm giving it as just one example. This type of durable wind turbine can be built on a smaller, way more efficient scale. The giant turbines wear out before they even pay for themselves but they are not the end all to wind power.
I don't have an immediate similar example for solar but I do have friends who are paying their electric bill, in a simple 3/2 home, by selling back energy to the electric companies from their solar panels. IOW, the panels are supplying more than the needs of the home. Now they don't have batteries and they are still on the grid. I am simply trying to point to the possibilities when you take government interference out of the picture and then possibly having companies spring up that aren't super greedy to build economical solar panels. And yes, battery technology is improving (another thing Elon Muak is working on) even though it is not yet to a commercially viable place.
The specific technologies would need to be tailored to different environments, of course. I am only trying to make a case that green energies look really bad right now because "they" want them to look bad. Very Saul Alinsky - The Issue is not the Issue. The overarching objective is to keep us dependent on an ever expanding government.
Well, it looks like General Motors has thrown in the towel on EV production, siting huge inventories and no buyers. This will pave the way for the manufacture of hydrogen fueled vehicles, a much more efficient alternative. We are continuously fed substandard technologies to avoid the elephant in the room. What is that you may ask? The concept that free energy technology exists. We do not have to burn anything to acquire energy for we are continuously surrounded by it universally. Those who control energy and information, control the world. This is the reason why we keep dancing around the subject, creating energy alternatives that are expensive and inefficient, to maintain control of the population. Tesla discovered a method to harness the earth's energy in the late 19th century. I ask the question, what we are doing here??
Thank you for this article, much needed. After all the fires recently, I won't even get in one of those EV cars. A local grocery store (New Seasons) put in a few charging stations 6 months ago, (near the stores loading dock, which make it really hard for regular trucks to deliver food to the loading dock) but the charging stations are still surrounded by yellow tape. The power demands simply cannot be met, is my guess. In a similar vein, remember when they said computers would save paper? Nobody asked, at what cost? We are so very gullable as a species, generally.
So many people are so enamored with electric vehicles they are beyond considering whether there are externalized costs, or won't work at all. It is called cognitive dissonance. In Vermont we have charging stations but they are almost always unused for lack of vehicles. It is all unraveling -- maybe then we can actually do something productive (like consume less) rather than counterproductive (consuming in the delusion we are doing anything beneficial for the environment: solar panels, EVs, ethanol, etc.)
So as a resident of SoCA (San Diego) there are massive ‘charging stations’ at local strip malls and shopping centers, in San Diego County. They are always full (mostly Teslas). I recently took a road trip from SoCA up to The Bay Area. The amount of EV’s (Teslas primarily) on the road is astounding. And seriously, up in The Bay Area, practically every other car on the road is a Tesla.
But then again we are in Commiefornia, where people have more $$$ than brains...with a big economic divide between the ‘haves’ and the ‘have nots’. Shoot...people are still wearing masks out in public, in stores (like Whole Foods and health food stores), and wearing them while driving in their cars out here!
I might laugh except I too live in Loonieville. Vermont is far off the cliff of reason as well. It is amazing to me that in response to complaints of regressivity, the rich liberals respond "But we are helping the poor people by saving the climate." So much for progressivism. Now stealing from the poor is virtuous! Oh wait -- that's what equity is......
I have liberal cousins who are scattered about in CA and CO…a couple of them have plenty of money…their older brother invested in Apple ‘stock’ early on when he was doing graduate work at Stanford…sadly he passed away in 2019 of heart issues @ the ripe old age of 73. He left his massive ‘stock’ portfolio to his brother and sister. They are of the same ilk…”bleeding hearts for the poor by saving the climate”. There are things we just don’t talk about these days…better for familial relations. Let’s just put it this way…I’m not traveling in their same lane.
I think we are all struggling with similar divisions. But there are not two truths.... EVs are old pollution in New bottles: errant action instead of effective policy. But people are waking up to the graft and falsehoods.
A question (and some comments I suppose). I live in central NH and consider myself pretty darn conservative. Would never buy an EV nor do I subscribe to progressive thought. However, I do have rooftop solar panels. Purchased them and understand I’ll get a 30% credit on my taxes so in that sense I’m being subsidized. Otherwise, I’m paying out of pocket for them (I don’t rent or whatever they call it). The way I see net metering here is - If I produce more sun power than I use electricity (I do), then that gets put back “into the system” and is used. The power company credits me with a certain portion back, not the full KWh amount. This is a bad thing???
I’ve never been very quick off the mark financially and I’m not seeking to screw my neighbor but...other than the 30% credit and the eventual disposal issue, the manner that these panels were made, etc I don’t see rooftop solar as an evil.
Happy for any decent feedback. Thanks and happy Thanksgiving to all out there.
I'm very grateful that you ask. Good questions. I'm not sure how NH implements their practice, but in Vermont all rates have been raised to subsidize solar panels, meaning those who don't have them still pay for those who do (in addition to tax credits, another wealth transfer from poor to rich). Solar panels are not a "bad" thing, and definitely have effective applications -- I plan to buy some for my off-grid house. So if they work for you that's great. However, to argue they are saving the planet is a bridge too far and an illusion. That's where rooftops become a scam -- if the ideologues truly cared about the planet they would not implement panels that are a mere 50% (or less) in efficiency than field arrays. I still use my chainsaw too -- I just don't delude myself or others that it is "net-zero." We should still reduce energy use as a conservative conservation policy, not simply "burn baby burn" because we are deluded into thinking our consumption is "clean." I hope this is responsive to your polite and welcome inquiry.
Agreed on the net zero fantasy. Used to live in St Johnsbury BTW. Finally “escaped” but the leftism is following me 🙄🤣🤣. Thanks for your substack. Great information
Thanks for this article, I forwarded it to my son-in-law as another reason not to buy an EV.
These cars blow up break down and can be controlled by the government. I wonder if in the future they will be th only things on the road. VT just welcomed in electric buses for public transportation.
You nailed it with facts and logic. However it’s preaching to the choir. The reality is that democrats do not care about facts or logic. Facts to a democratic policy position are just as dangerous as krypton is to Superman something to be avoided at all costs. We need to win elections to have power. I do not see where there is any real opposition to the democrats. The Republicans we learn govern as democrats light. IE they never ever roll back or eliminate any of the horrible policies they fund raise on doing it but give them power and they do nothing. Keep up the good fight.
I am not in disagreement with your analysis. However, there is another side to this that I wonder if you have considered and that is the possibility of solar panels that are used to provide electricity for individual houses that are not connected to the grid. As batteries improve, this is becoming closer to a real alternative. This can be a route to removing the government monopoly via centralized power grids. The government being involved, pushing and subsidizing, is the real issue.
Checked into battery storage. One would need a huge storage building (garage size) and three times the outlay for expenses. As for the panels, they are only under warranty for 15 years; however, the rep assures you they'll last 25 years.
I agree it is not commercially viable at this time. I will try to find the information again - it was something my husband showed me that I don't have in my own search history. I can't see exactly what I said, but I should have conveyed the future potential. We are always looking for ways in which we (meaning the common people) can break free from the matrix so to speak.
Giving my comment another go. I think that "they" have intentionally sabotaged the narrative for solar and wind energy. And by they I mean those controlling events, we think it is G*eorge S0r0s but whoever they are globalists who think we are stupid cogs and the world needs less of us and we need to be controlled. So they pushed this green iniative at least a decade before it was economically viable with government subsidies plus draconian regulations on oil (to put it simply). Those of us with working brains saw this govt pushing of inefficient technology and we tended to put our blame on the technology. I know we did. I'm sure there is a more academic way to describe this phenomenom. However, my physics smart mechanic husband became fascinated by Elon Musk and all the things he is doing - SpaceX, Tesla, Boxabl, even the neuroimplant - and he believes that Musk is genuinely trying to help humanity in direct opposition to what globalists want. I think you will see him more and more vilified. You certainly do not see his accomplishments talked about that much in relation to the massive amount he is doing.
Anyhow, this led my husband, who drives a one ton Chevy Silverado for work to fix issues on oil drilling rigs so we are currently dependent on the oil industry, to look at the actual economics of oil vs electric vehicles. On just the pure energy costs, not looking at the whole business, the EVs are way more energy efficient. An internal combustion engine converts about 25% of the fuel into energy that drives the vehicle as opposed to 90+% for an EV.
So imagine for a moment that we had economically viable ways of using wind and solar to make energy. The huge wind turbines were ALWAYS a stupid, inefficient, centralized economic boondoggle designed to keep government in control of our energy supply. For a differing answer, you can check this out - I'm giving it as just one example. This type of durable wind turbine can be built on a smaller, way more efficient scale. The giant turbines wear out before they even pay for themselves but they are not the end all to wind power.
https://youtu.be/J3QR1_VQ-KQ?si=0VmVgkKqH0doVXMG
I don't have an immediate similar example for solar but I do have friends who are paying their electric bill, in a simple 3/2 home, by selling back energy to the electric companies from their solar panels. IOW, the panels are supplying more than the needs of the home. Now they don't have batteries and they are still on the grid. I am simply trying to point to the possibilities when you take government interference out of the picture and then possibly having companies spring up that aren't super greedy to build economical solar panels. And yes, battery technology is improving (another thing Elon Muak is working on) even though it is not yet to a commercially viable place.
The specific technologies would need to be tailored to different environments, of course. I am only trying to make a case that green energies look really bad right now because "they" want them to look bad. Very Saul Alinsky - The Issue is not the Issue. The overarching objective is to keep us dependent on an ever expanding government.
Well, it looks like General Motors has thrown in the towel on EV production, siting huge inventories and no buyers. This will pave the way for the manufacture of hydrogen fueled vehicles, a much more efficient alternative. We are continuously fed substandard technologies to avoid the elephant in the room. What is that you may ask? The concept that free energy technology exists. We do not have to burn anything to acquire energy for we are continuously surrounded by it universally. Those who control energy and information, control the world. This is the reason why we keep dancing around the subject, creating energy alternatives that are expensive and inefficient, to maintain control of the population. Tesla discovered a method to harness the earth's energy in the late 19th century. I ask the question, what we are doing here??