The notion that illegal aliens are creating a housing shortage and driving up the price of real estate is laughable. These immigrants are/were never going to be in the housing market as buyers. The government land grab, in collusion with NGOs and hedge funds and banks are competing with us to buy our homes.
I both agree and demur. 1) You are exactly correct about the land grab, but you are correct: even bigger than that has been the corporate buy-up of thousands of residential properties following the Obama-aided 2007-8 housing market collapse. 2) Tens of millions of illegals are renting, which drives up rental prices. "Affordable" housing to meet demand is extremely expensive (on the taxpayer dime). Both of these drive up housing prices as legal citizens try to escape uncontrollable rent increases by buying a house. Rents and housing payments are always related. If these people were not here illegally, rental prices would plummet, and that would have a knock-on impact on home prices and availability. The study I quote supports this view.
I hadn’t connected the rental shortages fiasco, due to illegal’s being put up by the government, with the increase in house prices. Thanks for pointing this out
That shiny new housing developments can be "affordable" is a laughable misnomer. New is new and new is expensive. Only with vouchers provided by government and taxpayer money is it "affordable".
A bit on confusion here between "immigrants" and "undocumented immigrants." My experience is that most construction workers I've come in contact with (in the process of house renovation and maintenance) are immigrants. I do not inquire about their legal status. However, a couple of people in the construction business estimate that 20% or more of construction workers are undocumented. A thoughtful immigration policy would find a way to legalize these hardworking productive folks.
Agreed! Same thing with the dairy farm workers -- no one is out to deport them, and I think law-abiding immigrants are welcome. But there is a longstanding process that protects us from criminal elements, disease spread (Yup! -- routine screening at the border for TB, measles, etc., has gone out the window while condemning "un-vaxxed" citizens as a threat), etc. I have given food to many immigrants, and I don't ask their status. But Vermonters are struggling and need affordable housing too. The Rule of law either applies to all, or to none. Right now it has been turned upside down....
It's a war of words... undocumented immigrants, diversity, equity, inclusivity, black history, white racism, trans child, replacing the word "mother" with phrases like "inseminated person" and "parent who gave birth to the child." This is a form of strategic political manipulation aimed at altering public perception and discourse that involves deliberately distorting or redefining language to serve specific political goals.
I think it was a Russian who revealed the plan well underway...
Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to the West in 1970, was a Soviet journalist for the Novosti Press Agency who escaped to Canada and became known for his warnings about Soviet subversion tactics.
In his famous 1984 interview, Bezmenov outlined a four-stage plan allegedly used by the KGB to subvert Western nations, particularly the United States: Demoralization, Destabilization, Crisis, and Normalization.
"Refugees are housed in hotels or AirBnBs (at costs of as much as $300/night), while locals whose families have lived in the Green Mountains for generations are made homeless."
That is what it comes down to. We taxpayers are footing the bill to house illegals, thereby contributing, along with other unnecessary government meddling markets, to inflated sales and rents.
The people in Montpelier and their voters don't appear to care or even be aware (or deign to admit) that we are being fleeced of trillions of our dollars through government waste and fraud, made public by DOGE. One can only hope that the next act, accountability, is coming fast and hard before we all own nothing and aren't happy.
Vermont is a perfect example of why you should _never_ vote for the very same people who created the problem in the first place.
The notion that illegal aliens are creating a housing shortage and driving up the price of real estate is laughable. These immigrants are/were never going to be in the housing market as buyers. The government land grab, in collusion with NGOs and hedge funds and banks are competing with us to buy our homes.
I both agree and demur. 1) You are exactly correct about the land grab, but you are correct: even bigger than that has been the corporate buy-up of thousands of residential properties following the Obama-aided 2007-8 housing market collapse. 2) Tens of millions of illegals are renting, which drives up rental prices. "Affordable" housing to meet demand is extremely expensive (on the taxpayer dime). Both of these drive up housing prices as legal citizens try to escape uncontrollable rent increases by buying a house. Rents and housing payments are always related. If these people were not here illegally, rental prices would plummet, and that would have a knock-on impact on home prices and availability. The study I quote supports this view.
I hadn’t connected the rental shortages fiasco, due to illegal’s being put up by the government, with the increase in house prices. Thanks for pointing this out
That shiny new housing developments can be "affordable" is a laughable misnomer. New is new and new is expensive. Only with vouchers provided by government and taxpayer money is it "affordable".
A bit on confusion here between "immigrants" and "undocumented immigrants." My experience is that most construction workers I've come in contact with (in the process of house renovation and maintenance) are immigrants. I do not inquire about their legal status. However, a couple of people in the construction business estimate that 20% or more of construction workers are undocumented. A thoughtful immigration policy would find a way to legalize these hardworking productive folks.
Agreed! Same thing with the dairy farm workers -- no one is out to deport them, and I think law-abiding immigrants are welcome. But there is a longstanding process that protects us from criminal elements, disease spread (Yup! -- routine screening at the border for TB, measles, etc., has gone out the window while condemning "un-vaxxed" citizens as a threat), etc. I have given food to many immigrants, and I don't ask their status. But Vermonters are struggling and need affordable housing too. The Rule of law either applies to all, or to none. Right now it has been turned upside down....
It's a war of words... undocumented immigrants, diversity, equity, inclusivity, black history, white racism, trans child, replacing the word "mother" with phrases like "inseminated person" and "parent who gave birth to the child." This is a form of strategic political manipulation aimed at altering public perception and discourse that involves deliberately distorting or redefining language to serve specific political goals.
Yes, Orwell was very intense about the capacity for such linguistics to enslave....
I think it was a Russian who revealed the plan well underway...
Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to the West in 1970, was a Soviet journalist for the Novosti Press Agency who escaped to Canada and became known for his warnings about Soviet subversion tactics.
In his famous 1984 interview, Bezmenov outlined a four-stage plan allegedly used by the KGB to subvert Western nations, particularly the United States: Demoralization, Destabilization, Crisis, and Normalization.
Bezmenov claimed that the first stage, demoralization, was already complete at the time of the interview. See the whole of it here: https://youtu.be/yErKTVdETpw?si=x9-MoZ2AvTBj3C_B
The Vermont I grew up in no longer exists. The flat landers ruined it just like grandad predicted……..
LETS ALL CHANGE OUR NAMES TO EVIL NAMES SUCH AS ZELINSKI AND SO FORTH WOW HERE COMES THE DEMONICRAT LAUNDERING $ $ $
WARNING DO NOT REALLY DO THIS
"Refugees are housed in hotels or AirBnBs (at costs of as much as $300/night), while locals whose families have lived in the Green Mountains for generations are made homeless."
That is what it comes down to. We taxpayers are footing the bill to house illegals, thereby contributing, along with other unnecessary government meddling markets, to inflated sales and rents.
The people in Montpelier and their voters don't appear to care or even be aware (or deign to admit) that we are being fleeced of trillions of our dollars through government waste and fraud, made public by DOGE. One can only hope that the next act, accountability, is coming fast and hard before we all own nothing and aren't happy.
This is helpful. thank you. Sounds like the mortgage derivatives meltdown redux....